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Welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on IHart Radio. My guest today is Gabriela Hoffman. Gabriela is Center for Energy and Conservation

Director at the Independent Women's Forum and a freelance journalist. So nice to have you on,

Gabriella. Carol, it's so wonderful to connect. I'm really thrilled

to be on. You know, we were talking about this right before we started recording that you and I

have a lot of background, similarities, and yet we've never met in real life, which is really

funny because we're in a kind of small conservative world together. What is your background and how did you get to this conservative

world place? I think very similar to you, although there's a slight difference. When you were

immigrating to this country a little before my parents did, you took a similar path. You went to

Vienna, then La Dispoli. We went straight to La Dispoli, yeah.

Oh, I thought you went to Austria too.

Well, similar, but La Dispoli and then the United States.

My parents went to Austria, Legispoly slash Rome, then they had a layover in New York,

and then California.

So slightly different from you, but my parents are from Lithuania, which was also behind the Iron Curtain.

And I have a very interesting background.

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