The Karen Read Re-trial with Dr. Ashley Scolaro
Psych Legal Pop Podcast
Tess & Brooke Brigham
4.2 • 610 Ratings
🗓️ 17 June 2025
⏱️ 79 minutes
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In July of 2024 the judge in the trial of The Commonwealth of Massachusetts v. Karen Read declared a mistrial. The re-trial of Karen Read just concluded and is now in the hands of the jury. In this episode we are joined by Dr. Ashley Scolaro, a cognitive neuroscientist and professor who specializes in memory, taboo language, eyewitness reliability, and conspiracy theory ideation to discuss the second Karen Read trial.
Karen Read is on trial accused of killing her boyfriend John O'Keefe, a Boston Police officer, after dropping him off at the home of another Boston police officer, Brian Albert. Prosecutors allege that Read intentionally hit O'Keefe with her SUV and left him to die on Brian Albert's front lawn during a snowstorm. The investigation and two trials have exposed misogyny toward Read by the lead investigator, bias against Read and corruption within multiple Massachusetts law enforcement agencies Karen Read maintains her innocence and asserts that she is the victim of a cover up by the police of the murder of John O'Keefe.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the psych legal podcast. |
| 0:05.5 | This is a podcast where we talk about popular culture through the lens of an attorney and a therapist. |
| 0:09.8 | I'm Tess Brigham. I'm the therapist. |
| 0:12.1 | And I'm Brooke Brigham. I'm the attorney. |
| 0:14.2 | And we have a very special guest joining us today. |
| 0:17.8 | This is Dr. Ashley Scalero, Ph.D. |
| 0:24.8 | She is a doctor of cognitive neuroscience, |
| 0:31.5 | and she is also a professor at a small liberal arts college as well. Hello, Ashley. Thank you. |
| 0:56.5 | Dr. Scalaro, say. If I had a PhD, I'd make everyone call me doctor. I don't care. Because I, because I've witnessed many people go through it and it's a lot. So you deserve it. You deserve it. But thank you so much. Ashley has been following, today we are talking about the Karen Reed trial, specifically the second trial. So we have covered the Karen Reed trial before we're not going to give a whole synopsis. My guess is that if you're here |
| 1:00.8 | listening to us, you know what's going on with Karen Reed. But, you know, she was, there was a trial |
| 1:07.7 | last year. It was a hung jury. This year, jury selection started on April 1st. |
| 1:14.4 | They had an 18-person jury set by April 15th, nine men, nine women. The opening statements started |
| 1:21.4 | April 22nd, and then June 13th were the end of the closing statements and jury instructions. |
| 1:28.0 | So as we're recording this, there is no verdict yet. |
| 1:31.1 | So we are going to talk at the end a little bit about what our predictions are. |
| 1:35.5 | But, you know, Ashley is very, Ashley has been following this trial very closely. |
| 1:42.6 | So she really knows what's going on. I have |
| 1:44.9 | been following the trial on TikTok, which is another thing within itself. So I know a lot, but |
| 1:51.3 | not as well as Ashley. And Brooke actually, we covered, as I mentioned, we all, we covered the first |
| 1:57.7 | case, but Brooke hasn't been following the second case at all, second trial. So I think this will be very interesting to hear her takes because her takes |
| 2:05.0 | are all going to be very fresh and new. So. Yeah. And also to, Ashley has been watching the trial |
| 2:12.1 | every day. Yes. And she has, we have gavel to gavel coverage here. And she, she is preparing, you know, notes for her, one of her courses, you know, that she's going to use and using this case to teach her students. |
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