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Welcome to Wired Politics Lab, a show about how tech is changing politics.

I'm Leah Feiger, the senior politics editor at Wired.

We needed a great night. We got a great disappointment instead.

In the last two weeks since President Joe Biden's disastrous debate performance,

political pundits, and even some Democrats

have called for him to step aside.

I am not really quite sure that Democrats can do any worse than they are doing with Joe Biden

at the top of the ticket.

Step down and let someone else do this.

And while Biden insists he won't quit,

if the Lord Almighty come out, I said, Joe, get out of the race, I get out of the race.

The Lord Almighty is not coming down.

Everyone is looking closely at Vice President Kamala Harris.

I think he should step aside.

I think it's become clear that he's not the best person to carry the Democratic message.

That, of course, includes the far right on the Internet who are doing what the far right

does best, spreading disinformation. And they're doing it

to discredit her hypothetical presidential run before it even begins. She might not have,

obviously, cognition problems, but she's just not that capable. Later on, we'll also talk about

where RFK Jr. is on all of this. But first, joining me from Cork, Ireland, to talk about

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