The Justice System Will Steamroll You | Gun Talk Nation
Gun Talk
Gun Talk Media
4.6 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 24 September 2025
⏱️ 34 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
In this episode of Gun Talk Nation, host Ryan Gresham sits down with Chris Cunningham, retired Oklahoma City Police homicide detective and current Critical Response Coordinator for CCW Safe.
Chris reveals hard truths about the criminal justice system, and how even good people with no prior criminal record can find themselves completely unprepared — and financially devastated — after a self-defense shooting. With decades of real-world law enforcement experience, Chris walks through:
- What really happens after a self-defense shooting
- Why not calling the police first is a massive mistake
- How road rage and brandishing incidents escalate into criminal cases
- The right and wrong things to say after using your gun
- What it actually costs to defend yourself (you’ll be shocked)
- How CCW Safe provides expert legal protection, crisis support, and even crime scene cleanup
Whether you're a concealed carrier or just a concerned citizen, this is a must-watch episode that could save you from being steamrolled by the system.
This Gun Talk Nation is brought to you by Safariland, First Person Defender, Hodgdon Powder, and Guns & Gear.
About Gun Talk Nation
Gun Talk Media's Gun Talk Nation with Ryan Gresham is a weekly multi-platform podcast that offers a fresh look at all things firearms-related. Featuring notable guests and a lot of laughs. Gun Talk Nation is available as an audio podcast or in video format.
For more content from Gun Talk Media, visit guntalk.com or subscribe on YouTube, Rumble, Facebook, Instagram, and X. Catch First Person Defender on the new Official FPD YouTube channel. Watch Gun Talk Nation on its new YouTube channel. Catch Gun Talk Hunt on the new dedicated YouTube Channel. Listen to all Gun Talk Podcasts with Spreaker, iHeart, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you find podcasts.
Copyright ©2025 Freefire Media, LLC
Gun Talk Nation 09.24.25
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/gun-talk--6185159/support.
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | You said a lot of these good people don't realize that the justice system is about to steamroll them. |
| 0:06.5 | Absolutely. |
| 0:06.9 | I saw so for so many years, I saw good, kind people get caught up in the justice system that had no idea what was getting ready to happen. |
| 0:24.4 | Hi. that had no idea what was getting ready to happen. I'm Ryan Gresham, and this |
| 0:28.2 | this is Gun Talk Nation. |
| 0:46.4 | Gun Talk Nation is brought to you by Safari Land, First Person Defender, Hodgston, and Guns in Gear. |
| 0:52.7 | Hey, welcome into Gun Talk Nation. Today on the show, we have an expert, and we're not necessarily talking about guns because there's so much more to guns and carrying and self-defense than the gun part. |
| 0:59.7 | So we're going to talk about that. |
| 1:01.4 | We have an expert in that world of what happens after. |
| 1:05.8 | What happens after you have to use your gun in some sort of defensive application? |
| 1:12.4 | So today of the show, we're welcoming in. Chris Cunningham from CCW Safe. Welcome in. Thank you. Thanks for being here. |
| 1:17.6 | You bet. So Chris, why we start off here, give people a little bit of your background and how you got here. |
| 1:25.8 | I'm retired, Oklahoma City Police Department. I worked for the department |
| 1:29.6 | for 31 years. I retired a couple years ago. It was just kind of time to do something else. |
| 1:36.3 | I was a homicide investigator for 17 years with Oklahoma City and finished my career in the child |
| 1:42.5 | pornography unit and got to do a lot of different |
| 1:46.0 | things. I never imagined. When I initially hired on with the agency in 1992, my plan was to get my time in and then go federal. Okay. And try to be a federal law enforcement agency at the time. I was really looking to FBI. But I got on the |
| 2:03.5 | Oklahoma City Police Department. And at the time, we had a horse unit. We had a mounted |
| 2:07.9 | patrol. We had a bicycle unit. We had a motorcycle unit. We had a helicopter. We had just a lot of |
| 2:15.0 | opportunities that I didn't even know existed. That doesn't include your patrol |
| 2:19.6 | division, your special investigations, your criminal intel, your detective investigations |
| 2:25.1 | division. So I just kind of just kept finding a nice path there and never left. And before I knew it, |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Gun Talk Media, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of Gun Talk Media and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.