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Hey everyone, Ellie here, wishing you a happy Friday. Well, last Friday, after this podcast dropped, we got the U.S. Supreme

Court's tariff ruling striking down President Trump's emergency economic powers tariffs.

I did write an emergency column for New York Magazine, breaking down the opinion.

You can check that out, but we did not do a separate podcast.

So looking forward, a couple things.

One of the big remaining questions is what happens with the $130 plus billion, maybe as high as

$200 billion now, but we know $130 billion as of the end of 2025? What happens to all that money

that was collected under these tariffs, which turn out to be unconstitutional? And man, it must be nice to be the U.S. Supreme Court because they knew this was a big, messy issue. They raised it several times at oral argument. Amy Coney-Barrant seemed especially worried about how are we going to work out the money if we rule this unconstitutional? And what does the Supreme Court do?

They ignore it. Must be nice, right? Just some messy problem and just go, how about it if I just say nothing about it? And then maybe I won't have to deal with it, at least now. Justice Kavanaugh did address it in dissent, he said it would be, quote, a mess. And he's exactly right about that. If you saw Donald Trump's unhinged rant after this ruling, I won't dignify it with much of a repetition here.

But you've seen it where he attacks the justices and says their foreign agents and their embarrassments to their families,

a ridiculous, historically outrageous rant by the president.

He does say one thing, one thing that I

will sign on to where he says something like, boy, the Supreme Court spends all this time

putting together this opinion and they don't even tell us what to do with the money.

That I agree with. Pretty much that one sentence out of everything Trump said over the whole

entire rant. So what happens now? We're going to

get lawsuits, surely from these importers who've paid these tariffs. And by the way, the people who

pay tariffs are U.S. importers. They're not foreign countries, as some have suggested. We'll see

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