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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

The joy of uncertainty

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, News, Politics, News Commentary, Philosophy

4.610.8K Ratings

🗓️ 22 January 2024

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

For much of her life, author Maggie Jackson disliked uncertainty and thought of it as something to eradicate as quickly as possible. But when she began to explore the uncertain mind, she discovered new scientific findings showing that uncertainty is critical for astute problem-solving and creativity. She joins Sean to talk about what she learned and how being unsure can lead to a better, more hopeful life. Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area Guest: Maggie Jackson. You can find her books and more at https://www.maggie-jackson.com/ Enjoyed this episode? Rate The Gray Area ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Be the first to hear new episodes of The Gray Area by following us in your favorite podcast app. Links here: https://www.vox.com/the-gray-area Support The Gray Area by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts This episode was made by: Producer: Jon Ehrens Engineer: Patrick Boyd Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Support for this show comes from Krakan.

0:03.0

Krypto is like the financial system, but different.

0:07.0

It doesn't care where you come from, what you look like, your credit score,

0:11.0

or your outrageous food delivery habits.

0:13.7

crypto is finance for everyone everywhere all the time.

0:18.4

Krakhan, see what crypto can be.

0:21.3

Don't invest unless you're prepared to lose all the money you invest.

0:25.0

This is a high-risk investment and you should not expect to be protected if something goes wrong.

0:31.2

Support for this show comes from Krakan.

0:33.0

Krypto is like the financial system, but different.

0:37.0

It doesn't care where you come from, what do you look like, your credit score,

0:41.0

or your outrageous food delivery habits.

0:44.1

crypto is finance for everyone everywhere all the time.

0:48.8

Krakhan, see what crypto can be.

0:52.0

Don't invest unless you're prepared to lose all the money you invest.

0:55.0

This is a high-risk investment and you should not expect to be protected if something goes wrong.

0:58.7

It shouldn't surprise anyone to hear me say that I'm a fan of uncertainty.

1:05.0

After all, this podcast is called the gray area for a reason.

1:10.0

We try to live in the nuance as much as possible,

1:12.6

and we try to explore questions with an open mind.

1:15.9

And it's not just a stick for me.

1:21.5

I really believe that openness is a necessity, especially today, when the loudest, most obnoxious

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