The journey to Qatar's World Cup final
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🗓️ 15 December 2022
⏱️ 25 minutes
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Summary
Ahead of Sunday’s final match, two Post journalists and die-hard soccer fans discuss all things World Cup. Columnist Ishaan Tharoor sits down with Jeff Pierre, host of “The 7,” to unpack the controversies, the triumphs and what’s at stake this weekend.
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This year’s World Cup has been mired in debates about its host country, Qatar. But it’s more complicated than that, according to Ishaan Tharoor: “I think being there helped me think a bit more deeply and hopefully with a bit more nuance.” For him, being there gave him a unique insight into how the country prepared for the tournament and how players and attendees are reacting to the results. For many watching, the most exciting victories were those of the Moroccan team, which became the first African team to make it to a World Cup semifinal.
As the tournament comes to a close on Sunday, two of the world’s most talented soccer stars will face off. Sunday’s final is expected to be veteran Argentine player Lionel Messi’s last shot at winning a World Cup. He’ll be playing Kylian Mbappé, the young French forward who has led his team to its second final in a row.
What it’s like being at the World Cup.
Morocco’s showdown with France carries complex political baggage.
After enduring insults and threats, Iranian team exits the World Cup.
How far can the U.S. men’s national team go?
At the World Cup, Wales finds itself.
No beer, but plenty of scandal at Qatar’s World Cup.
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| 0:00.0 | So, I'll be honest, I have never been a huge soccer fan, but watching the last three |
| 0:07.3 | weeks of the World Cup has blown my mind. |
| 0:10.6 | There was Iran's shocking win against Wales. |
| 0:14.1 | There was the last minute almost comeback by the Netherlands against Argentina. |
| 0:19.0 | There was Morocco, this Cinderella team with its incredible and fallible goalie, the |
| 0:24.3 | first African or Arab team to ever make it to the semifinals. |
| 0:29.1 | And then there's me, a person who still cannot explain what offside's means. |
| 0:34.2 | And all of a sudden, I am turning on the games while I'm sitting at my desk at work. |
| 0:38.7 | I am gasping at the screen when a goal is scored, and I am planning my schedule around |
| 0:44.0 | watching Argentina play France in the final on Sunday morning. |
| 0:48.3 | So I cannot even imagine what it must be like to actually be there. |
| 0:53.6 | You know, I'm not a sports reporter. |
| 0:57.3 | My job is to write about geopolitics, about the world and global affairs. |
| 1:01.7 | And that's my colleague, Ashantharur, who's been at the World Cup these last couple of |
| 1:05.6 | weeks. |
| 1:06.6 | But of course, as a soccer obsessive, I made the case to my editors that this is something |
| 1:12.8 | of tremendous global importance that becomes a vehicle of meaning that really transcends |
| 1:18.6 | sport, and the fact that it wasn't cut there itself was made it, you know, a particularly |
| 1:23.7 | unique experience. |
| 1:25.5 | Ashanthurur came on the show a few weeks ago to talk about Qatar and the controversies |
| 1:30.0 | over human rights issues and allegations of labor abuses. |
| 1:34.0 | That has been a theme ever since this country won the bid to host the World Cup. |
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