And so I thought about it in that same way, it's not going to die that light, if we neglect it, it'll be there, but if we actually nurture it, we cannot just survive but flourish.

Hello and welcome to the Psychology Podcast. Today we welcome Sharon Salzberg to the show.

Sharon is a meditation pioneer, a world renowned teacher, and New York Times best-selling author. She's the co-founder of the Insight Meditation Society.

Her podcast The Metta Hour has a mass 6 million downloads and features interviews with thought leaders from the mindfulness movement and beyond. Her latest book is called Real Life, the journey from isolation to openness and freedom.

In this episode, I talked to Sharon Salzberg about navigating real life. When we are faced with trials and tribulations, it feels as if we're alone. On top of that, our underlying assumptions about the world in ourselves can make us feel worse.

Sharon shares useful tips that can help us deal with overwhelming emotions and pain. She believes that by cultivating these loving kindness practices, it can help us feel more open and free, allowing our inner lights to shine forth.

On a personal note, this was a really amazing interview. I really love Sharon, and I mean really. She's a really wonderful human, and every time I talk to her, I feel her love and openness, and it makes me want to be a better person.

So with that further ado, I bring you my dear friend Sharon Salzberg.

Hello Sharon!

It's so good to see you. I'm good, how are you?

I'm good, so good to see you too, and huge congratulations on the publication of your new book.

Thank you so much.

Real life. Beautiful.

Oh, you have the book book. I don't even have the book book.

I do. Wow.

What really?

Yeah, I have Galleys.

You should.

Yeah.

You should have a copy.

Well, it's beautiful.

And I know there's a part in the book where you said that you went through a period where you were like, I don't know if I have anything more to say after 10 books.

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