And the Yes, it's the rambley bit at the beginning of the other thing, you know, we're all five weeks into lockdown now.

This has been a long week. Yeah, very long week. I keep expecting the weeks to get better.

They sort of, yeah, I don't know why, it's just my optimistic. better. Do you?

Yeah, I don't know why, it's just my optimistic nature, Andy,

but of course they don't.

Of course they don't.

Of course they don't.

My pessimistic nature suggests otherwise.

I'm not pining for nature, I've got woods in one direction and the sea in another direction.

I'm very, very lucky, right?

But I'm pining for an art gallery.

I don't want to look at any more nature. I want to look at some man-made triumphs please.

I don't want to... You're sick of the spring.

I am!

It's not the same online, is it?

All those pictures.

It's not the same as in real life.

It's like these attempts to have kind of social

gatherings online I find very unconvincing I have to say I don't know lots of people

kind of you know asking other people if they can hear them and drinking wine

with sort of rictus grins and pretending it's all fine which it kind of isn't really.

It's like a it's like a publisher's party by any other name.

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