The Josh Willis Interview with Throwing Fits

Throwing Fits

Fashion & Beauty, Arts

4.9 • 2.1K Ratings

🗓️ 15 December 2025

⏱️ 113 minutes

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Our interview with Josh Willis is for the foos. Josh—the co-founder, designer and creative director of Second/Layer—was in town from sunny Los Angeles to brave the NYC cold and chat about being a janitor of all trades, getting what you pay for with knits, going a step beyond for customer service, the Dodger blue speaking to him like the Green Goblin mask, Good Art toolery, grom's today ain't got no respect, what if How To Make It In American took place in LA, Wear Second/Layer And You'll Pull Bitches™, you need to figure out the first layer on your own, arriving at style vs. it just showing up, creative direction is easy but the production is hard, what's even going on with sneakers these days, delivering on time is everything, differences between American and Japanese consumers, going to the bank or the street to keep things afloat, dear other brands: he sees your cheap tricks and how you're barely a business, dressing like you give a fuck, hive mind design, what to wear when you get a newlywed blessing from the Pope, and much more on Josh Willis' interview with The Only Podcast That Matters™.

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0:00.0	This podcast is supported by The Real Real.
0:02.7	Meet Christine.
0:03.7	She loves shopping.
0:04.9	And this?
0:06.8	This is the sound of fashion overload.
0:09.3	Too many fabulous things, not enough space.
0:11.8	So Christine started selling with the Real Real.
0:13.9	I've always loved collecting designer pieces.
0:16.6	Gucci bags, prodded heels.
0:18.6	But my style keeps evolving.
0:20.2	Selling with the Real Real? Game changer.
0:22.5	I earn more, and they do everything.
0:25.1	Seriously, just drop off your items or schedule a pickup.
0:28.1	We handle the photos, descriptions, pricing, even shipping.
0:31.5	You just sit back and watch your items sell.
0:33.8	Fast.
0:34.4	To our 38 million members.
0:36.2	And I get peace of mind knowing I earn more selling with
0:38.5	The Real Real than anywhere else. Exactly. This? That's the sound of your closet working for you.
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1:28.6	Therealreel,com. That's the real, real, real.com. Suavacito. Our guest this week has accomplished one of the genuinely rarest feats on earth. Having an LA-based brand that doesn't suck, but. He's a man in many layers, creating tailor-made dailyware from one of the best brands in the world that is still somehow underrated. And maybe that's on purpose. He took a brief pause during his East Coast vacation and warm up in the studio and rip a pod with two of his biggest fans. Get off his wave co-cooks because here to chat the current state of American menswear, sexy textiles, and romanticizing the past. The co-founder, designer, creative director, and janitor of second layer. Josh Willis,
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