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We're going to talk to Alex Viena Wave in just a minute because he wants to share his views on LAPD interim chief,

Dominic Choi, who came on the show on Monday for half an hour and said that the crime problem is more an issue of our perception.

We'll play you a minute of that interview, and then we'll talk to Alex Villanueva.

There's not a person in the world that notices of crime is up or down 3%.

First of all, the crime has been up in recent years when it comes to daily life,

when it comes to shoplifting, burglary, all the homeless weirdos in the street is menacing.

So there's a difference in numbers of crime and perception of crime. Now, my job

as the public safety as the chief of LATB, give me a second, that I'm tasked with addressing not just

the number of crime, the data, but I'm also tasked with addressing the perception of crime. For example,

if you're a victim of, I don't know, somebody stole your hubcaps, you're still a victim of crime, no matter how serious.

And if I tell you that crime's down, you're going to say absolutely not because you experienced it.

So part of my role is also to address a big part is the perception of crime.

But because all the crazy homeless people are allowed to wander around, It makes people feel that at any moment something

bad is going to happen to me. That's a feeling of safety and perception of crime that I'm talking about.

Right. Okay. But it's still bad news. It's still something that the police and the city should do

something about. You know, Choi kept trying to intimate that the crime is down.

And then yesterday, we got this news report that robberies in Los Angeles have increased 17% compared to this time in 2020.

There's been 505 of them.

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