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John Colbert Radio. All right, we will take a brief break from the coverage of all the mayhem.

Another type of circus continuing in New York, Trump, the hush money trial, it's day number 10 already. It's just really moving

along, isn't it? And we're going to talk with Dave Packer from ABC. And I think today, you had one

of Trump's attorneys cross-examining Stormy Daniels, former attorney, among other things. Dave, how

are you? Dave Packer. Are we? Yes, listen. Ah, among other things. Dave, how are you? Dave Packer.

Are we?

Yes, that's me.

Ah, there you are.

Ah, here I am, yes.

Yeah, so we started out this morning with another instance where there was a hearing on whether Trump violated the gag order in the case again.

That's after Trump was fined $9,000 for other gag order violations.

We haven't had a monetary amount on ease, and they haven't come to a conclusion.

But then it was back to a testimony, and Keith Davidson was on the stand again.

He's the L.A. lawyer who specialized basically in not just getting money for Stormy

Daniels or Karen McDougal, but as the defense was pointing out, got money for all sorts of clients.

So they were, you know, painting it as extortion. And Davidson took issue with that. He didn't, and again,

there was this kind of a lawyer-to-lawyer-heated exchange

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