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We're going to talk with Todd Benzman here.

He is a journalist who has been stationed at the border covering just unbelievable experiences.

And he's got another one.

Todd writes for many publications, this particular piece was in the Daily Mail.

He's also affiliated with the Center for Immigration Studies.

And he's provided a lot of first person coverage to us over the last couple of years.

He was near the town of Juarez, which is right where New Mexico, Texas, and Mexico come together.

And they came face to face with drug cartel operatives

as they were trying to film some of the bad guys

climbing over the border fence.

It's quite a story. Let's get Todd on here.

Welcome. Hey, great to be here. Thank's quite a story. Let's get Todd on here. Welcome.

Hey, great to be here. Thank you for having me. Yeah, this is a thriller of a story here.

So you and you and you have a colleague with you, right? And you're, you're trying. Yeah, I use a translator when I'm down in Mexico.

And you're driving along on a road parallel to the U.S. border, and you encounter these, these migrants climbing the fence.

Describe your experiences and describe your encounters with drug cartel employees.

Sure.

And it happens.

You don't ever want it to happen, but it does happen if you're reporting in the heart of

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