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We're going to talk now with Bob Clifford. He is an attorney who sued Boeing over one of the two crashes that happened in 2018 and 2019.

You've been following the Boeing saga, I'm sure, most recently, that door plug blew out of the Alaska airplane that was going from Portland to Ontario.

But if you remember, Boeing's problems with these Max Jets go back to October 2018.

Max 8 crashed an engineer in Indonesia,

2019 in Ethiopia, total killed 346.

They grounded all the max jets,

and it cost the company more than $21 billion.

And you think that would have been enough

to get their production system in order.

But apparently it wasn't.

Let's get Robert Clifford on the line.

He represents the families of the victims in the second crash, the one in Ethiopia.

Robert, how are you?

Hey, John. Good afternoon, sir.

How are you? I'm wonderful.

I'm all right.

I'm just fascinated by this because you had two huge crashes, and they were fighting to keep the planes in the air anyway. And now all these years later, we've got a run of more Boeing problems with their max jets. They don't learn lessons easily there, do they?

No, they don't.

And, you know, to your point about they fought to keep the planes in the air, you know,

the first crash in October of 2018, you could, let's call that an accident or something

that came about because of negligence.

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