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Plain English with Derek Thompson

‘The Job Market for Young People Is Brutal’

Plain English with Derek Thompson

The Ringer

News, News Commentary

4.72.1K Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2026

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Something weird is going on with the elevated unemployment rate for young people today, but no one knows what exactly it is. For the last year, as the unemployment rate for recent college graduates has crept up ominously, one of the questions I’ve reported more deeply than any other is: Is AI replacing young workers’ jobs? To make a long story short: I initially thought yes, then some economists convinced me the answer was no, then some other economists convinced me the answer was yes, then some other people convinced me the answer was no. Clear as mud. Today’s guest is Rogé Karma. He’s a staff writer at The Atlantic, where he writes about economics. We talk about the labor market for new hires, why young college graduates are so miserable, and why economic vibes are worth paying attention to, even if the official statistics are pointing in another direction. Subscribe to our YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@PlainEnglishwithDerekThompson If you have questions, observations, or ideas for future episodes, email us at PlainEnglish@Spotify.com. Host: Derek Thompson Guest: Rogé Karma Producer: Devon Baroldi Links:https://www.theatlantic.com/category/work-progress/ https://www.theatlantic.com/economy/2026/04/job-market-artificial-intelligence/686659/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Today, something alarming is happening to the job market for young people.

0:12.0

For the last year, as the unemployment rate for recent college graduates has crept ominously upward,

0:18.5

one of the questions I've reported most deeply is, is AI replacing young workers' jobs?

0:25.4

To make a long story short, I initially said yes.

0:29.9

Then some economists convinced me the answer was no.

0:32.3

Then some other economists convinced me the answer was yes,

0:35.0

then some other experts convinced me the answer was no,

0:37.4

and then some other researchers assured me the answer was yes, then some other experts convinced me the answer was no,

0:41.2

and then some other researchers assured me the answer was maybe.

0:44.0

If that's unclear to you, then very good.

0:47.3

You're paying attention because it is clear as mud to me.

0:54.0

What is clear is that something weird is going on with the elevated unemployment rate for young people today.

0:57.5

And no one is exactly sure what that thing is.

1:02.8

And in a way, that uncertainty is even scarier.

1:08.1

After all, if you have an illness and a doctor provides a diagnosis, even if it's a frightening diagnosis, at least you have an answer.

1:12.2

Oh, you can't breathe? Well, we did a CT scan. It's pneumonia. That sucks. But what sucks more is if you go to the

1:19.3

ER and you can't breathe and they do a CT scan. And one doctor says that's clearly pneumonia.

1:25.0

And another doctor says, you idiot, that's nothing like pneumonia. And then another doctor says you're both idiots because this machine isn't even good enough to diagnose pneumonia in the first place. And the doctors start screaming at each other in the ER room about methodology and test sensitivity and you're still there on the stretcher. Like, hey, I can't breathe over here. That is the labor market for young people today.

1:47.1

The experts are shouting at each other about evidentiary standards, and the patient is on

1:53.1

the table getting worse by the minute.

1:55.8

Today's guest is Roger Karma.

1:58.2

He's a staff writer at the Atlantic where he writes about economics.

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