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White Horse Inn

The Jewish Gospels

White Horse Inn

Sola Media

Grace, Scripture, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Spirituality, God, Knowledge, Christ, Gospel, Jesus, Faith, Belief, Religion, Christian, History, Theology, Bible, Reformation, Horton, Discipleship

4.82.1K Ratings

🗓️ 29 December 2021

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

WHI Classic • There was a time in which Judaism & Christianity had many more beliefs in common. As it turns out, many ancient Jews before the time of Christ actually expected the coming of a divine messiah who would appear in bodily form in order to atone for sin and accomplish redemption. In fact, some Jews even spoke of this messiah as a kind of second divinity who was distinct from the Ancient of Days, and whose relationship to God was like that of a son to a father. Shane Rosenthal discusses these issues and more with Daniel Boyarin, author of The Jewish Gospels, and John Ronning, author of The Jewish Targums and John’s Logos Theology (originally aired Jan 27, 2019).

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Among Jews the idea of the Messiah as a kind of divine human was not at all uncommon.

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Therefore the shock of the early Jesus movement was not on the theological front

0:16.3

whether there could be possibly a father and a son but the argument was

0:21.1

whether Jesus was indeed the one that they were all expecting.

0:26.3

And I suggest that actually what we call today high Christology was there from the very beginning. On this edition of the White Horse Inn, we'll be hearing from Daniel Boyarin,

0:35.0

author of the Jewish Gospels, and also John Ronning,

0:38.0

author of the Jewish Targums in John's Logos Theology.

0:50.0

Five centuries ago in taverns and public houses across Europe, the masses would gather for discussion and debate over the latest ideas sweeping the land.

0:55.7

From one such meeting place, a small Cambridge inn called The White Horse, the Reformation

1:00.8

came to the English-speaking world.

1:03.6

Carrying on the tradition,

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welcome to the White Horse Inn.

1:07.1

Hey there, and welcome to another edition of the White Horse Inn, I'm Shane Rosenthal.

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In the first half of the program I'll be talking with Berkeley Professor Daniel Boyarran.

1:18.4

And then after the break we'll hear from a scholar by the name of John Ronning.

1:22.2

Daniel Boyarran is on the line with me now.

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He's a Talmud scholar who's authored numerous books and essays on the intersection of

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Christianity and Judaism.

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And for the purposes of this program, we'll be talking with him about a book he wrote back in

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2012 titled the Jewish Gospels the story of the Jewish Christ. Daniel Boyar and

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thanks for being my guest today on the Whitehorse Inn. It's my pleasure.

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So right at the opening of your book, you tell your readers that there was a time when Jews and Christians

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