Hey there's cyber listeners. Matthew here. Just really quickly want to give you some context for this episode, just in case you didn't hear the first part. This is the second part of a long conversation that Emily and I recorded with a longtime motherboard editor-in-chief, Jason Kebler. He has left. It's got his own thing going on now. Maybe you've heard of it. But before we left, we made him tell us all the deep,

dirty secrets of motherboard. A lot of great stories in this one. So to kind of set it up where we are

here, he had just finished telling us a story about one of Motherboards' earliest controversies,

which happened when he was in an

HR meeting, learning how to do his job. He came out. He had a bunch of calls from Disney.

If you want to hear that story, go back and listen to the first episode. Let's get into a

different controversy, one that ties into a movie that's out in theaters right now.

Tann, it's got the code it's going to launch.

It's a unit system. I know this. It's all all the files of the whole park.

It tells her everything.

Sir, he's uploading the virus.

The Eagle one.

The package is being delivered.

Can we talk about another time?

Someone got mad at us.

Yeah, let's move on.

This one's much funnier.

So there's a movie coming out.

Perhaps you've heard of it.

The Grand Turismo, the movie movie, directed by Neil Blomcamp.

We have done some work with this director before.

Former friend of motherboard. Former friend of motherboard.

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