This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Monday, June 20th, 2022. I'm Caleb Brown.

The January 6th Committee's work continues and the hearings highlight the need for some reform to the election processes at least when it comes to choosing a president.

Caters Thomas Berry details what those reforms ought to look like and why now is vastly preferable to later.

As the January 6th committee has been moving through testimony,

there have been some new information that has come out

about the election aftermath of 2020 with specific respect to the laws that govern

how presidents are selected and that members of Congress, including the vice president, who is a member of Congress,

including the vice president, who is a member of Congress on certain days, what kind of discretion he has as well.

So what do we learn recently from testimony of former Judge Luddig and others?

That's right. So former Judge Michael Loddig who advised

former Vice President Pence in the run-up to January 6th and Pence's Chief

Council Greg Jacob both testified on the same day

about their legal advice to former Vice President Pence and the competing legal advice

that President Trump was getting from John Eastman and others purporting to

suggest that the Vice President has vastly more power than any Vice President

has ever claimed before in history.

And it really drives home just how close

we could have come to a constitutional crisis

if Mike Pence had not forthrightly rejected it

and how important it is to reform the statute that

regulates that count to make explicit to future vice presidents that they don't

have this power. You are referring to the Electoral Count Act,

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