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This is Fresh Air, I'm Terry Gross. The House Select Committee investigating the January 6th

assault on the Capitol holds its first public hearing tonight. It's at 8 o'clock

eastern and will be shown on most major network and cable news channels. My guest Luke Broadwater has

been reporting on the investigations by the committee and the Justice Department into attempts to

overturn the 2020 presidential election. He's a congressional correspondent for The New York Times

and is one of the authors of a new article that pulls back and puts together the months-long

attempts to declare Trump the winner despite the fact that all the evidence showed he lost.

I spoke with Luke Broadwater yesterday morning. Luke Broadwater, welcome back to Fresh Air.

Hi Terry, thanks for having me. When you stand back and look at the big picture,

you see that just about every facet of government was involved or pressured to be involved in the

effort to overturn the election. The White House, the White House Chief of Staff, lawyers that

were allies of President Trump, members of Congress, the Department of Homeland Security,

the military, state houses, election officials, as well as far-right radical groups. What am I leaving

out? I think you did a good job of summing everything up. The effort by Donald Trump and his

allies to try to overturn the results of the 2020 election was such a sprawling and diffuse

effort that it literally did range from local election board officials all the way up to

...