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An Irishman Abroad

The Jade Jordan Episode

An Irishman Abroad

Jarlath Regan

Society & Culture, News, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture:personal Journals, Personal Journals, Politics

4.8834 Ratings

🗓️ 11 September 2021

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Actress and writer Jade Jordan sits down with Jarlath to discuss the inspiration behind her stunning new book “Nanny, Ma & Me”. Learning to cope with racism, discrimination and abuse is hard enough but a large portion of the population deny it’s very existence, that is something else entirely. Jade explains how the institutional racism the past three generations of her family have faced might have to get worse before it gets better. The presumption that each generation is more tolerant than the last is examined while we hear raw and heartbreaking audio from Jade's interviews with her mother. The final part of the episode is devoted to Jade’s own story and how her time at drama school crippled her confidence but also showed her how not to teach drama at her own school today. The book Nanny, Ma & Me is out now: https://www.bookstation.ie/product/nanny-ma-and-me-an-irish-story-of-family-race-and-home/ To hear every episode in full and to gain access to the entire back-catalogue of over 500 Irishman Abroad episodes that are not available on iTunes for just the price of a pint every month visit www.patreon.com/irishmanabroad Supplementary research provided by John Meagher. Our charity partner is jigsawonline.ie. In these tricky times, Jigsaw provides a range of resources, advice and care for your people to help them strengthen their mental health and the skills needed to navigate life. Please visit their website and consider making a donation. For updates on future episodes and live shows follow @jarlath on Twitter, visit www.jigser.com or email the show directly on [email protected]. Disclaimer: All materials contained within this podcast are copyright protected. Third party reuse and/or quotation in whole or in part is prohibited unless direct credit and/or hyperlink to the Irishman Abroad podcast is clearly and accurately provided.

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I can honestly say I've been made feel uncomfortable in my workplace, I've been made

0:07.0

feel uncomfortable in restaurants, I've been made to feel uncomfortable on a bus, I've

0:12.5

been made feel uncomfortable in a supermarket. One Saturday morning and we were opening a shop

0:18.4

on the North Strand. I'll never, never forget it. A man walking past and again shouting out, Negro, I walked after him.

0:25.6

I tipped him on the shoulder.

0:27.6

I said, don't you ever fucking speak to me like that?

0:29.6

What has gone on in my life has made me very tough.

0:32.6

I would be afraid of no man or woman.

0:34.6

I mean, I was opening a shop.

0:36.6

You could see that I was, I mean, it was probably 8 o'clock in the morning.

0:40.3

I know, I remember.

0:41.3

The problem is, is that people want to know why are black people so angry.

0:49.3

I wonder why people have had enough.

0:51.3

I've had enough.

0:52.3

There's days where I can honestly say I've

0:54.3

had enough there's a world it's a sad world really sad world but I really hope that what's

0:59.8

happening now in the world that you know we use this time to educate ourselves people

1:07.5

owe that to the next generation I'd like to think that it will change and that it'll be easier for the next generation.

1:13.6

But from what I've seen, it's getting harder.

1:17.6

Jay Jordan's new book Nanny Man Me is more than just a story of three Irish women navigating the same issues

1:26.6

through three very different times in Irish

1:29.4

history. It's an insight into how Ireland has changed and failed to change. How much the uncomfortable

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