I'm Magna Chocrobarti and this is the jackpot where on point news analyst Jack Beatty

helps us connect history, literature, and politics in the way that brings his unique clarity to the world

we live in now.

Hello, there, Jack.

Hello, Mejna.

We're at episode 26, Jack.

What's your headline?

What leopard?

Indeed, what leopard are you talking about Jack?

Well, here is a parable by Franz Kafka that'll explain that.

Leopards break into the temple and drink up the offering in the chalices.

This happens again and again.

Finally, one can predict their action in advance and it becomes

part of the ceremony. Of course that's talking about the inexorable tendency to normalize the

abnormal, tolerate the intolerable and Jonathan V. Last of the bulwark ties it to former President Trump by saying,

you know, he's conditioned us to expect nuts, nuts is normal with Trump and the question is how did that come to be and here is a

tiny anecdotal a little a little myriad of possible answers to that. Here is one little data point.

Chris Hayes, he's an extremely talented journalist, He has a show on MS DNC, as Trump calls it,

and he is extremely bright indeed. He may be the only television host in history to use the

word the phrase under-thearized. He said of something it's under theorized.

Wow, that's smart.

Anyway, Chris Hayes, through a lot of the Trump years,

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