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On Point with Meghna Chakrabarti

The Jackpod: The Xanadu Effect

On Point with Meghna Chakrabarti

WBUR

On Point, News, Daily, Talk Show, Npr

4.33.9K Ratings

🗓️ 15 March 2024

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

On Point news analyst Jack Beatty on how presidents lose touch with reality.

About:

On Point is WBUR’s award-winning, daily public radio show and podcast. Every weekday, host Meghna Chakrabarti leads provocative conversations that help make sense of the world.

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0:00.0

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0:25.8

Learn more at mathworks.com.

0:28.2

I'm Megna Chachrabardi and this is the jackpot where on point news analyst Jack Beaty

0:38.8

helps us connect history, literature, and politics in a way that brings his unique clarity to the world we live in now.

0:45.8

Hello there Jack.

0:47.2

Hello Megna.

0:48.2

Episode 25 today, what's your headline?

0:51.5

The Xanadu effect. Now if you're going to be linking poetry and

0:56.7

politics today Jack I'm going to be over the moon so what do we mean by the Xanadu

1:00.4

effect this week? Indeed it named after Coleridge's famous poem, you know, beginning in Xanadu did Kubla Khan a stately pleasure dome decree, the Xanadu effect is a peculiar kind of nemesis to mix mythologies, laid up for presidents who lose touch and come to inhabit their own semi-private worlds.

1:27.0

Here's looking at you, Donald Trump.

1:29.0

But as we're going to see, also most acutely with Joe Biden. In his 1970 book, the twilight of the

1:38.8

presidency, George Reedy, who was one of L.B.JJ's press secretaries and who saw the Xanadu effect in full

1:46.8

operation wrote the most important and least examined problem of the presidency is that of maintaining contact with reality.

1:58.4

He points to the apparatus of hangers-on and sycophants and yes men who cocoon the president as

2:06.6

presidents really become captive to their inner circles no one he, he writes, thrusts unpleasant thoughts upon a king unless

2:17.9

asked to do so. And the king reference gets at the peculiar nature of the president.

2:25.8

He's both the head of government, but also the head of state, the sort of embodiment of

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