Hello and welcome to this day, a history show from Radiotopia. My name is Jodi Avergan.

We are here with part two of our look at the photograph, raising the flag on Iwo Jima, taken by the photographer Joe Rosenthal of the Associated Press. Last episode,

we talked about the battle on Iwo Jima, how the photo was taken, a bit about how it started

to get printed and reprinted and go viral and used as propaganda in the spring and summer

of 1945. This episode, we will answer a question that many people had at the time, and

kind of sort of still exists today, but who exactly is in that photograph?

We will meet the six, three of whom, as we mentioned last episode, were later killed in ongoing fighting on Iwo Jima, and we will get into the impact that that photo had at the time and in the decades since.

Here, as always, Nicole Hammer of Vanderbilt

and Kelly Carter Jackson of Wellesley. Hello there. Hello, Jody. Hey there. Before we get

into all those big questions that I just laid out there, I am very curious if we could just do

something a little sillier or funner, but there is an argument to be made that this is the most parodied photo

in history. I was thinking about this, and I was having a hard time coming up with another one,

but this photograph is so iconic that no surprise, it appears in all sorts of different places.

We've all sort of taken a look at a roundup of the parodies. We'll put this in our newsletter.

But, you know,

they're from pop culture to arts and sculpture and, you know, remixes and stuff with, this

photograph has kind of been riffed on in endless ways. And I'm curious if either of you have

any particular favorites of the parodies or remixes of this. It's so funny because when I first saw the title of this piece, the most parodied photo

in history, I was like, oh, I wonder if they have that time that it was parodied on the Simpsons?

And then I open it up and it was parodied like 10 different times on the Simpsons.

It's just like they keep doing it because it's such a, it's like the original meme before their computers. It's just like, memed all over the place. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good word for it. Meme. It very much is, right? Like the image taken over and over and over again. In pitch perfect, too. They have a moment on stage where they do a little Ewo Jima tribute.

Oh, yes.

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