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The Gist

The Issue With Oscar Noms

The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

News, Daily News

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2020

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

On the Gist, Trump lying about embassies and Iran. In the interview, New America's Lee Drutman is here to discuss his new book Breaking the Two Party Doom Loop: The Case for Multiparty Democracy in America. He and Mike talk about why we need more than two parties in the US, how the two-party system came about, and what the way forward could be like. In the spiel, the Oscars need affirmative action. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:07.0

It's Monday, January 13th, 2020 from slated to the gist. I'm Mike Pasca. President Trump went on the safe space of Fox News to lay out what he said was the imminent threat from Cassem Soleimani.

1:24.0

I can reveal that I believe it would have been four embassies, but Baghdad certainly would have been the lead. But I think it would have been four embassies. Could have been military bases. Could have been a lot of other things too.

1:34.0

But it was imminent. And then all of a sudden he was gone. His Eminence, the Donald speaks of imminence. And I suppose we must all acquiesce.

1:44.0

But the senators were given the intel briefing hadn't heard of this plan to attack four embassies. Other administration officials who explained the imminence of the attack had never cited four embassies.

1:56.0

And after careful questioning on ICANN 3 out of the five Sunday shows, Secretary of Defense Mark Esper admitted, okay, there weren't literally four embassies per se.

2:08.0

But you know, it kind of felt like there were four embassies. It was that type situation. So in a nutshell, the president was lying. Or as they say, when movies are based on a true story.

2:19.0

But then you find out that the main white guy protagonist in real life was an Asian beetle. He wasn't so much lying as conveying an emotional truth.

2:27.0

President's lie, or president's lie all the time. Many times the president will lie about a Cassus bell. That means they lie us into war.

2:36.0

He certainly will lie to get him out of the accountability for war. We get it. It's all priced in. But it is notable that the Secretary of Defense ultimately did not back up his life.

2:48.0

As per finally had to admit it, here he was unfazed the nation.

2:53.0

What the president said was he believed that it probably could have been a tax against additional embassies. I shared that view.

3:00.0

I know other members of national security team shared that view. That's why I deployed thousands of American paratroopers to the Middle East to reinforce our embassy in Baghdad and other sites throughout the region.

3:10.0

Probably and could have been that is that sounds more like an assessment than a specific tangible threat with a decisive piece of intelligence.

3:19.0

Well, the president didn't say it was a tangible. He didn't cite a specific piece of evidence. What he said is he probably he believed that it wasn't one.

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