The Israel-Hamas War’s Next Phase, Poland’s Democracy Test, Australia’s ‘Indigenous Voice’ Referendum, and More

The World Next Week

Council on Foreign Relations

Politics, News, News:politics

4.6 • 845 Ratings

🗓️ 13 October 2023

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Israeli and Palestinian casualties rise as fighting between Israel and Hamas continues; Poland holds a pivotal parliamentary election; Australia votes on whether to enshrine representation for Indigenous people in its constitution; and Afghanistan struggles with the aftermath of a 6.3-magnitude earthquake. Mentioned on the Podcast Wojciech Kość, “Poland’s Ruling Party Publishes Top Secret War Plan as a Campaign Stunt,” Politico Gibran Naiyyar Peshimam, “Afghanistan Earthquakes a ‘Disaster on Top of a Disaster’, World Food Programme Says,” Reuters “The Israel-Hamas War, With Elliott Abrams and Steven Cook,” The President’s Inbox Visit CFR.org’s Israeli-Palestinian Conflict page for up-to-date coverage For an episode transcript and show notes, visit The World Next Week at: https://www.cfr.org/podcasts/israel-hamas-wars-next-phase-polands-democracy-test-australias-indigenous-voice-referendum

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0:00.0	In the coming week, the war between Israel and Hamas reverberates across the globe.
0:06.0	Poland holds its most consequential elections since the 1989 revolutions,
0:10.0	and Australians vote on whether to include permanent First Nations representation in Parliament.
0:14.0	It's October 12, 2003 in time for the world next week.
0:28.4	I'm Bob McMahon.
0:29.8	And I'm Carly Ann Robbins.
0:34.8	Carla, we're going to start, of course, in Israel and it's war against Hamas, particularly in Gaza.
0:35.7	As we were taping this podcast, the two sides were exchanging
0:39.2	blows, but a lot of attention was focusing on the virtual sealing off of Gaza by Israeli forces,
0:45.5	what that means in terms of the prolonged fighting, but also humanitarian impact. There have been
0:50.5	some calls around the world for bigger international action to step in, to try to maybe create some sort of a ground for ceasefire.
0:58.9	What are prospects of anything like that happening?
1:01.0	Well, Bob, first, let me say even nowadays afterwards, it's really hard to comprehend the scale of the carnage and loss in Israel.
1:08.3	More than 1,300 people dead, 150 people taken hostage, as far as we know.
1:13.2	Most of them, civilians, just going about their lives, young people, elderly, young children.
1:19.2	This really is truly a horror.
1:21.8	And the suffering in Gaza is horrifying, you know.
1:24.2	It's the Israelis relentlessly pound neighborhoods from the air.
1:27.6	I mean,
1:31.8	people refer to this as a refugee camp, but this is really a densely populated neighborhoods.
1:38.5	Israel's also cut off all water and fuel and shipments of goods. And the Gaza Health Ministry said today, Thursday, that more than 1,300 Palestinian civilians have been killed since Saturday and
1:42.8	more than 6,000 wounded,
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