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Witness History

The islands Japan and Russia can’t agree on

Witness History

BBC

History, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.41.6K Ratings

🗓️ 30 November 2022

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

In 1947, thousands of Japanese families were expelled from their island homes by Soviet troops. They were taken from the Northern Territories, also known as the Southern Kurils, after the Soviet Union took control of the islands. Japan and Russia have failed to sign a peace agreement after World War Two because of the dispute. Yuzo Matsumoto, who's now 81, has been speaking to Laura Jones. (Photo: Yuzo Matsumoto with photos of his parents, standing in front of a map of Etorofu. Credit: BBC)

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Thanks for downloading the Witness History podcast from the BBC World Service. We're

0:32.2

going back to 1947 when thousands of Japanese families were expelled from their

0:37.6

island homes by Soviet troops. I've been speaking to Yuzo Matsumoto, who's now 81.

0:43.6

Let's start on the 15th of August 1945 when Japan's Emperor Hirohito made an

0:51.4

unprecedented radio broadcast. The Emperor, who many Japanese had never heard

0:59.9

speak until now, is ending his country's involvement in World War II, and

1:04.5

agreeing to the Allied forces terms. The end of the war would lead to big changes

1:11.0

for a little boy called Yuzo and his tiny community. I thought we would

1:16.2

probably be able to go back. We really wanted to go back. Between Japan and

1:21.8

Russia, there's a chain of tiny islands, and because of their strategic

1:25.8

importance, they've been argued over for many years. The four nearest to Japan are

1:30.7

known by the Japanese as the northern territories, whereas the Russians call them

1:35.0

the southern curials. Yuzo Matsumoto was born on one of them, Eterofu, in 1941.

1:46.2

A beautiful natural environment dotted with many lakes and ponds, and 80% of the

1:53.4

island is forest. I was born in Rubetz village on Eterofu Island, in a

2:02.3

community called Tennei. My father worked as the postmaster. I have five siblings.

2:09.5

There are around 38 houses, and the Japanese army and navy was based there. So

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