The Islamic Invasion Is Coming!
The 9941 Podcast
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4.9 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 10 November 2025
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
This week, Granger sits down with Mike Cheon, a South Korean missionary whose life and faith have taken him from Seoul to the mountains of Afghanistan, and now to church planting in Canada. Together, they talk about what’s being called an “Islamic invasion” and why fear often drives the way Christians view immigration and Islam. But Mike offers a radically different perspective — one that sees these moments not as threats, but as opportunities for the gospel.
Through powerful stories of his years living among Afghan families, the loss and near loss of his own children, and the cries of a mother mourning her baby in the rubble of war, Mike reminds us of what it means to see every person as made in the image of God. He shares how lament and worship have opened doors in places where sermons never could, and how the church’s response to suffering can be its greatest witness.
It’s a moving conversation about faith without fear, compassion over politics, and what it truly means to love our neighbors — even those we’ve been taught to fear.
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| 0:00.0 | So there have been a lot of discussions lately on social media, especially in Christian circles, |
| 0:05.7 | that there is an evasion coming, an invasion of our nation here. |
| 0:11.1 | And that is what people are calling the Islamic invasion. |
| 0:15.7 | Is this real? |
| 0:17.0 | Is this fiction? |
| 0:19.0 | Is this something we should be worried about? Let's discuss in today's show. |
| 0:27.5 | So I'm so excited about this discussion today. |
| 0:36.9 | It's really connected a little bit to last week's episode where we were talking basically |
| 0:44.5 | in Christian nationalism. And it's hard today to talk about Christian nationalism in America |
| 0:53.4 | without talking about Islam. And then |
| 0:56.9 | there is more and more a fear of Islam, especially from Christian circles. I would argue, especially |
| 1:04.1 | from nominal Christian circles. Sure. They think, they think I like my life. It's very comfortable. |
| 1:11.7 | I like the school that my kids go to. |
| 1:14.7 | And I like my church. |
| 1:16.1 | And I like my grocery store. |
| 1:17.7 | And I don't want to see Muslims coming in and bringing their ideas and their culture and pushing us out. |
| 1:25.4 | You know, we see that around the world. |
| 1:27.5 | And so that's kind of a flash reaction, a knee-jerk reaction. |
| 1:32.0 | Especially when you have the governor of, of the most populous state and the mayor, |
| 1:38.6 | which is mayor or governor, you know what I'm doing it's, it's mayor. |
| 1:41.3 | And as we, as we record this today, the elections today. |
| 1:44.7 | So by the time this comes out, we will know whether the mayor of New York City is a Muslim. |
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