Hello this is the game podcast from The Times and I'm Natalie Sawyer joining

Gregor Robertson and I today it is Tom Roddy Tom how are you doing it

been a long time since you've been with us. It has, it has.

And it's a shame it can't be done in the studio face to face, but there we go. But yeah, very well yourself. Yes very very well Tom how have you found post lockdown or post restart that shall I say with with football resuming have you found it all?

Yeah. Oh it's been brilliant actually it's sort of a I think it's a sort of renewed

appreciation of of kind of the job and also just football in general really. I remember when the

Bundesliga came back and and everyone was kind of not everyone some people were sort of saying it wasn't that exciting,

but I think with the Premier League and with the championship, you, it's much, it's been much better and and it's been I think it's been a lot better

than everyone expected it to be even. I think you might be right.

Gregor how you keeping? I'm good that how are you? Yes I am doing very very well getting

excited about Brentford. Oh Gregor I don't even know I do know I am I'm so excited but it's still that annoying thing of

West Broman Leeds are not doing their bit they're not losing right now so

it's getting close and I enjoyed enjoyed Mr Frank's kind of tactical masterclass during the drinks break

when he got to the tactics board and he started pointing everyone.

What do you know what it's interesting you mentioned that, we should just refer to it,

shouldn't we? The second half of the game against Charlton, Brentford are 1 nil down.

They have the water break as they're meant to have. And Thomas Frank brings out, as you say,

the magnetic tactics board, which I have never seen a manager do

obviously on a pitch what is that right is that taking it in the

because it's too far what did you think Gregor Well it's interesting isn't it because you know

Chris Wilder had said I think in the last round of fixtures too that you know

football is now a game of four quarters because it disrupts the the flow of the game

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