The Iron Law of Oligarchy with Pedro Gonzalez
The Charlie Kirk Show
Charlie Kirk
4.6 • 65.7K Ratings
🗓️ 28 April 2022
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
Charlie welcomes back to the show, Associate Editor of Chronicles Magazine and Contra Substack columnist, Pedro Gonzalez, for a philosophical discussion around the principles of power. Are elites inevitable? And if so, do you need elites to displace and successfully challenge incumbent elites? Why are incumbent elites so against Elon Musk's takeover of Twitter? Does his move violate any concepts or ideals of conservatism as publications like National Review suggest? Charlie and Pedro break down the tectonic shift that's taken place on the political right and within the Republican Party, when it comes to punishing foes and rewarding friends—a concept that doesn't sound very kind, but ultimately may prove necessary to successfully fight back against the new era of radical leftism. How long will it take for this conservative movement to take back institutional power from the gender theorists and the race hustlers? Finally Charlie plays a tape that evokes a "primal reaction" from Pedro that you don't want to miss.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, everybody today on the Charlie Kirk Show. What is the Iron Law of Oligarchy, a thoughtful philosophical conversation with the great patriot, Pedro Gonzalez? |
| 0:08.0 | We go deep into the philosophy of power and why conservatives need to be serious about winning again, not just losing admirably, something I couldn't agree with more. |
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| 1:33.9 | With us right now is Pedro Gonzalez from Chronicles Magazine, amongst many other wonderful publications. |
| 1:40.4 | Pedro, welcome back to the program. What is the Iron Law of Oligarchy? |
| 1:46.5 | Thanks for having me back, Charlie. |
| 1:47.9 | So the Iron Law of Oligarchy was proposed by a German-born Italian sociologist named Robert Mikuls. |
| 1:54.7 | And it's very ominous sounding, but really it's just kind of stating a fact, a fact of life. |
| 2:03.3 | And that is that when you look at political parties, because this theory is based on an |
| 2:11.6 | examination of how political parties in democratic societies actually function, it doesn't |
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