The Iraq War changed everything. What have we learned?

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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News, Society & Culture, Politics, Government

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🗓️ 21 March 2023

⏱️ 31 minutes

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The Iraq War began 20 years ago – what lessons have been, and what must still be, learned from this invasion? Arthur Snell, the host of Doomsday Watch who served as a diplomat in Iraq, joins Alex Andreou to discuss the mistakes that were made, the human and cultural costs of the conflict, and the arguments surrounding a conflict which fundamentally reshaped global politics. “There was a lot of groupthink and clustering around a set of predetermined conclusions.” “The human losses, the cultural losses, the rise of Isis, there are so many long term effects of this war – to keep saying it was worth it to get rid of Saddam, you have to ask ‘What level of loss overwrites that argument?’” “There is a fundamental loss in confidence… people lost confidence that the Government was telling the truth.” “This intelligence should have never gotten that far… the people best placed to examine this were not shown it.” www.patreon.com/bunkercast Presented by Alex Andreou. Assistant Producer: Kasia Tomasiewicz. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production: Robin Leeburn. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production Instagram | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:05.0	Hello and welcome to the bunker daily. I am your host Alex Andreu.
1:08.0	The Intelligence Community was absolutely uniform and uniformly wrong about the existence of weapons of mass destruction
1:16.5	and they pushed that position. It is hard to deny the conclusion that intelligence analysts
1:22.2	worked in an environment that did not
1:24.3	encourage skepticism about the conventional wisdom. Those are the words of Judge
1:29.4	Lawrence H. Silberman, co-author of the Report on Pre-War Intelligence and Weapons of Mass
1:35.0	Destruction.
1:36.4	My guest today, as we mark the 20th anniversary of the 2003 Iraq Invasion, is Bunker and Oh-God what now regular Arthur Snell.
1:46.1	His credentials as a former diplomat are lengthy and intimidating, but what sets him apart
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