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Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

The Iran-War: An Autopsy - with Jonah Goldberg and John Podhoretz

Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

Ark Media

Hamas, News, Politics, News Commentary, October 7, Palestine, Government, War, Geopolitics, Israel, Society

4.83.2K Ratings

🗓️ 29 June 2026

⏱️ 62 minutes

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When Trump said, I am going to destroy your civilization, Tuesday morning and Tuesday evening, he said, I am now declaring a ceasefire.

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I think it was at that moment that it was clear that the heart had gone out of whatever the hell was going on,

1:12.2

that he had decided that he was no longer having fun and that he wanted to get himself out of it.

1:18.4

When you take out the Supreme Leader and 40-odd members of the leadership of the country,

1:23.0

they're going to interpret that as an attempt at regime change.

1:27.4

That completely blew up the escalatory

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ladder thesis on all this. Like if they had gone in and said to the regime quietly, look, you guys are

1:35.1

safe, but we're going to take out your Navy. We're going to take out your Air Force. Don't do anything

1:38.2

with the Strait of Ormoos or this. We're going to take out your regime. That would have been the

1:41.8

right sequencing of threats, but instead to start at

1:44.6

11 and then try to go backwards creates this problem where the Iranians were like, we're a Persian

1:50.0

Gulf Alamo now. We got nothing to lose. Let's start attacking our neighbors. Let's start mining and

1:55.3

droning the Strait of Hormuz because it's this or death. And so I personally think it's possible that the United States could have won this whole thing in real terms, gotten regime change and all that.

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But it would have required a level of stick-to-itiveness that it would be folly to expect from this administration.

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