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Against the Rules with Michael Lewis

The Invisible Coach

Against the Rules with Michael Lewis

Pushkin Industries

Sports, Business, Society & Culture

4.49.9K Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2020

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Credit card companies are making billions of dollars off of people who don’t understand the rules of the money game. Can a good coach help level the playing field?

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0:00.0

Pushkin.

0:07.0

The Global News Podcast from the BBC World Services.

0:12.0

What's been happening? Who's involved? Why it matters. What might happen next?

0:17.0

I think what the Global News Podcast does really well is pick stories about places that surprise people.

0:24.0

They try to overturn expectations.

0:26.0

New stories that perhaps you won't have heard anywhere else and the things to look out for in the future.

0:31.0

The Global News Podcast helps you catch up with our restless world in your own time.

0:36.0

Search for it wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

0:43.0

Welcome to season two of Against the Rules. I'm Michael Lewis.

0:47.0

Before we get to where we're going, I want to go back for a moment to where we've been.

0:52.0

A little backstory from season one.

0:57.0

The story involves a woman named Katie Highland. She's in her late 30s. A public school teacher, wife, mother of two small children.

1:05.0

Her entire adult life, she'd been made miserable by student loans she'd taken out when she was 18 years old.

1:11.0

I don't see any pay off and it just keeps getting harder and harder and that's soul crushing.

1:17.0

Her state of mind.

1:20.0

Well, even her children could see it wasn't good.

1:23.0

It might be actually kind of painful for her because all of this counts with a bill and getting something changed to another thing that's the same but changing to it.

1:38.0

I love you.

1:40.0

It does feel kind of painful, right, mommy?

1:46.0

A lot of the papers, yeah, it's a lot of paperwork.

1:49.0

And a lot of pain.

1:51.0

Yeah, full for doing it.

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