And when you watch what we just watched in that epic seven game series between San Antonio and Oklahoma City, how far away are the Mavs realistically from being able to compete with those teams?

That's coming up in 15 minutes because let's talk as we get into summertime.

A lot of people will decide that they want to take a few days away and head out for some vacation,

which a lot of the times ends up turning into a road trip.

And I'm a fan.

A little bit of breaking news.

Yes, the defensive player of the year in the NFL, Miles Garrett, is being traded from the Browns to the Rams.

Whoa.

Compensation will be out later today.

Okay.

That's interesting.

So Miles Garrett going to the Rams.

That's incredible.

We were just talking about their don't give enough attitude.

And then they go trade for him.

So I see Tom Pelliserra is reporting that Cleveland is expected to receive two-time

Pro Bowl edge Jared Verse and a 2027 first round pick and some additional compensation.

But you talk about loading up for the Rams with Matthew Stafford at the back part of his

career, of course, and that just gave them their Aaron Donald.

Yeah, I thought their days of going all in like that were behind them.

I didn't realize that the biggest swing they

would ever take would still be in front of him. Wow. I mean, he just broke the sack record.

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