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This is Theology Applied.

All right, welcome to another episode of Theology Applied.

I'm your host, Pastor Joel Weben with Right Response Ministries, and in this episode I'm privileged to welcome back to our show,

recurring guest, John Harris, from Conversations That matter. John, thanks for coming on the

show. Yeah, thanks, Joel. I appreciate it. It's good to be with you. Great. So there's been a

little bit of controversy online and really it's just, you know, the way that most controversy works,

I know this has been your experience. It's becoming mine as well, but usually it's the same thing

and it just gets recycled. So it's like, you know, a year goes by and then, you know, the same thing pops up again. For you, one of the controversies that it seems like for, you know, has circled again and again and again and what's kind of brought it to the surface, you know, this most recent bout is that, you know, that you were positively spoken in Megan Basham's book that's been making

the rounds and really doing a number on Big Eva, but she positively references you,

your friends with Meg Basham, and a lot of her conclusions. I mean, she did a great job,

so I don't want to disparage her. But a lot of the things that she pointed out were receipts that

you had published and kept over years, you know, before she ever even hopped on the train.

And so in order to discredit her, you know, and her work, because Big Eva, you know, wants to self-preserve.

They're saying, well, look at her connection to John Harris.

And what's the problem with John Harris?

John Harris, he's a racist.

He loves slavery. And he's a Confederate with John Harris? John Harris, he's a racist. He loves slavery and he's

a Confederate, you know, apologists. So that's, I wanted to have you on the show because this is

something that's been happening for me is, um, theology is radical, it's indispensable. It's radically

important. Um, ultimately, you know, the, the final arbiter of all truth is the word of God in our exegesis. What does God's words say?

But it is also incredibly telling and influential our views of history. And I've noticed that, you know, that sometimes the friend-inemy distinction and, you know, who you end up partnering with and what side you end up

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