From the New York Times, this is the interview. I'm Lulu Garcia Navarro.

Maggie Gillen Hall has always had this kind of fascination with the darker side of sex and love.

Her breakout role as a young actor came with her award-winning performance in the 2002

film secretary, where she's a troubled woman who embarks on a sadomasochistic relationship with

her boss. In Crazy Heart, she played a young mother who falls in love with an older alcoholic

country singer. That role earned her an Oscar nomination.

And in the series The Deuce, she starred as a sex worker who becomes a director of pornographic films.

That last role made her want to be a director in real life, too.

And so in 2021, she won a claim with her feature directorial debut, The Lost Daughter,

about the taboo feelings

some women feel over motherhood. For me, the throughline in all her work is a desire to tell

the stories of women who live outside conventional boundaries. Enter her newest film, The Bride,

an imaginative retelling of the story of The Bride of Frankenstein,

starring Jesse Buckley, which Jillon Hall both wrote and directed.

The film is part love story, part crime caper, with some surreal musical numbers thrown in.

But Jillen Hall's signature themes of sexual violence, female power, and transgression undergird at all.

Here's my conversation with Maggie Jillenhall.

Thank you so much for being here.

I really appreciate you coming to the interview.

It really is my pleasure. You know, it's interesting to me because I interviewed you in 2019

for The Deuce. And in that interview, you said to me, playing that role where she, your character,

becomes a director of pornography, but a director nonetheless. It's like a real journey.

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