The Interview: How Wikipedia Is Responding to the Culture Wars

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🗓️ 25 November 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Attacks against the site are piling up. Its co-founder says, Trust the process.

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0:00.0	Well, Casey, it's Thanksgiving week. Happy Thanksgiving week to you and your family, Kevin. It's also a Tuesday. It is a Tuesday, but we had a couple things that we wanted to tell you about. The first of them is that we want to bring you a recent episode of the interview that we really thought you might like. Yes. Also, we wanted to take a week off and go have Thanksgiving dinner with our families. Oh, yeah. You're not going to catch us in the studio this time.
0:23.2	So last month, our colleague Lulu Garcia Navarro interviewed Jimmy Wales, the co-founder of Wikipedia,
0:29.5	and they had a really interesting conversation about all of the culture wars surrounding Wikipedia
0:34.0	right now, how it operates, the political bias accusations that it has
0:38.8	faced, the challenges they're now facing from AI and from Grogapedia, Elon Musk's
0:45.2	version of Wikipedia. And we should note that this interview happened just before Grogapedia
0:50.9	was released to the public, but we thought this was a conversation well worth hearing,
0:55.6	and we wanted to bring it to you on this Thanksgiving week.
0:58.3	Absolutely. And the second thing we wanted to tell you
1:01.4	is that, believe it or not, Kevin,
1:02.5	it has been an entire year since we released our episode
1:05.7	on the 100 most iconic technologies of all time.
1:09.0	And in the wake of that episode,
1:10.7	listeners said, we would like to hear about more technological icons. And so we are proud to announce today that this Friday, in this very feed, we will be releasing the long-awaited follow-up to that list, the 50 most iconic technologies of 2025. Yes. And if you're wondering, why only 50 this year?
1:28.8	Casey, why are only 50 this year?
1:30.1	It's because there were not that many iconic technologies this year.
1:34.0	And we have a very high bar for what counts as an icon.
1:37.9	And, you know, Kevin, just to give people a little teaser of what they can expect,
1:41.4	we have a clip from this episode that's coming up on Friday.
1:44.0	Rare Earth Metals! episode that's coming up on Friday. Rare Earth Metals!
1:47.0	So that is coming up on Friday. If you have a long drive somewhere to see your family
1:51.9	on Black Friday because you're going to the mall.
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