The interview Boris Johnson won't want you to see
The News Agents
Global
4.1 • 5.4K Ratings
🗓️ 5 July 2023
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
Exclusive footage of Boris Johnson from the One Decision Podcast has been shared with The News Agents.
He was facing questions from hosts Julia Macfarlane and Richard Dearlove about Ukraine, democracy and global security.
Towards the end, Julia asked him about his own response to British democracy - his refusal to accept the findings of the 'kangaroo court' privileges committee into his wrongdoing.
She also asked him about Chris Pincher - the deputy chief whip who resigned from government over sexual assault allegations - and that's where Johnson's answers got really odd...
Later on the show we talk about the escalating violence in Israel and Jenin, and why Netanyahu's personal fortunes may be influencing his military moves...
Joining The News Agents today were freelance journalist Julia Macfarlane, Channel 4's foreign correspondent Secunder Kermani, & Cambridge Gates Scholar and expert on populism, Ayala Panievsky.
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| 0:00.0 | The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity. |
| 0:09.4 | This is a global player original podcast. |
| 0:12.7 | How did you throw it all away? |
| 0:15.2 | I think that when I look at what I do. |
| 0:18.8 | Would you ever listen to your colleagues a bit more when they conveyed their unease over things like the Chris Pinscher affair, the Owen Patterson Rowe, at what any of these turning points? |
| 0:31.5 | Okay, look, Julia, I think... |
| 0:33.5 | That was Boris Johnson, our former Prime Minister, and he's pretend snoring. |
| 0:40.1 | And he's pretend snoring through a question he's being asked about allegations of sexual assault by one Chris Pincher, his former deputy chief whip. |
| 0:52.6 | It is an extraordinary interview, an extraordinary exchange exchange and you're not going to hear that |
| 0:57.0 | exchange anywhere else but on the news agents. |
| 1:00.2 | On today's episode, we're going to be talking to the journalist who interviewed Boris Johnson |
| 1:05.2 | for that show and getting her reflections on a prime minister who not only doesn't seem to want to reflect, |
| 1:12.6 | but in any way, atone for that period of chaos. |
| 1:16.4 | Welcome to the newsagents. |
| 1:21.3 | The Newsagents. |
| 1:22.9 | It's Emily. |
| 1:23.5 | Alex Lewis. |
| 1:24.2 | And we're joined today in the studio by Julia McFarlane, who is a freelance journalist who works a lot in the US as well as here. And recently, she was lucky enough to be co-hosting a podcast, One Decision, with Boris Johnson as their invited guest. And give us a feel, a flavour, Julia, of what the sort of podcast is about. |
| 1:47.8 | So our podcast, I co-host it with Sir Richard Dearlove, who is the former chief of MI6. And we |
| 1:55.2 | interview world leaders, former world leaders, academics, politicians, and the main theme of our podcast |
| 2:03.5 | is geopolitics, national security. We do a lot of Russia, a lot of China. And we got a pretty |
| 2:11.4 | last minute interview with Boris Johnson earlier this week. And I was, I went to say I was dreading it, but I was concerned about |
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