Hi, this is Natalie Hoffman of Flying Free Now.com, and you're listening to the

Flying Free Podcast, a support resource for Women of Faith, looking for hope and healing from hidden

emotional and spiritual abuse.

Welcome to episode 41 of the Flying Free Podcast. Before we get started, I want to do a

listener shout out to J.J. Mom of 3 who recently left the following review.

She said, when I finally realized I wanted out of a confusing and unhappy relationship, I went

looking for self-help books, podcasts, and so forth. I couldn't quite put what I was experiencing into words and no one

understood what I was talking about until I found Natalie and her website, book,

and podcast.

Breath of fresh air, light at the end of the tunnel, coming out of the fog,

whatever you want to call it, this is the place for me.

Truth and calling it what it is, abuse. Thank you so much

J.J. Mom of three for taking the time to leave a rating and review on Apple

podcasts. I'm really grateful that the resources I've

offered have been helpful for you. Rachel and I really enjoy reading about how

this podcast has made a difference in so many people's lives. If you'd like to leave a rating and review, just

go to Apple Podcasts and look up Flying Free. Today I'm excited to introduce you to

Andrew Bauman, author of the book Stumbling Toward Wholeness, A Brave Lament,

which he co-authored with his wife Christy, and The Psychology of porn.

Andrew is a licensed mental health counselor and he and his wife run collective hope counseling in Seattle, Washington.

We're going to be talking about the intersection of pornography and domestic abuse.

This podcast is sponsored by the Flying Free Education and Support Community,

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