The Internet Wasn’t Always Run by Villains. Anil Dash Explains What Happened
There Are No Girls on the Internet
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4.4 • 820 Ratings
🗓️ 26 August 2025
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Summary
Why does it feel like the main voices dominating tech today are basically super villains? Billionaires who don’t care if the world gets worse, just as long as they get a little richer.
We hear them everywhere— their bad ideas, their grievances are all amplified.
Anil Dash, one of the internet’s earliest voices, says it didn’t used to be this way. He's been a highly visible and impactful techie, writer, and entrepreneur for decades. In this thoughtful, wide-ranging, and optimistic interview, he talks with Bridget about how fun and personal the early Internet was, why tech bros keep making it worse, and how we can create a better Internet that once again centers fun, compassion, and human connection.
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| 0:38.4 | The whole internet is made of people, |
| 0:40.6 | and I think it's easy to forget that |
| 0:42.2 | because we've been taught these myths |
| 0:43.9 | that it is all these giant corporations, |
| 0:46.4 | also the myth of like, you know, |
| 0:47.6 | these billionaire founders, |
| 0:48.9 | and it's like, now those dudes are sitting |
| 0:50.4 | on top of work that regular folks made. |
| 1:00.4 | I don't know. are sitting on top of work that regular folks made. There are No Girls on the Internet as a production of IHeart Radio and UnBossed Creative. |
| 1:08.5 | I'm Bridget Todd, and this is There Are No Girls on the Internet. |
| 1:13.9 | Why does it feel like the main voices dominating tech today are basically supervillains? |
| 1:20.2 | Billionaires who don't care if the world gets worse, just so long as they get a little bit richer. |
| 1:25.6 | We hear them absolutely everywhere. They're bad ideas, |
| 1:28.7 | their grievances. It's all amplified. Like a handful of angry rich dudes are the only ones who matter. |
| 1:35.3 | But we know those are not the only people shaping tech. Because there are brilliant, |
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