The Internet Has Kept Katy Perry’s Receipts
ICYMI
Slate Podcasts
3.9 • 800 Ratings
🗓️ 22 April 2026
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Summary
On today’s episode, host Kate Lindsay is joined by Slate senior writer Scaachi Koul to discuss the downfall of Katy Perry. Back in 2025, Scaachi wrote a feature about the singer’s descent from beloved pop star to internet meme, but a recent allegation of sexual assault from actress Ruby Rose has cast her legacy in a whole new light. But in revisiting Katy Perry’s past fifteen years, it turns out the real question is: Did Katy Perry change, or did we?
This podcast is produced by Vic Whitley-Berry, Daisy Rosario, and Kate Lindsay.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, I'm Kate Lindsay, and you're listening to I-C-Y-M-I, or in case you missed it, |
| 0:19.2 | Slate's podcast about internet culture. |
| 0:21.9 | Today, we are welcoming back everyone's favorite Sachi Cole. |
| 0:25.9 | Hello, Sachi. |
| 0:27.4 | Hi, how are you? |
| 0:28.7 | Oh, I am so good. |
| 0:30.2 | It is great to have you here, although I was saying earlier in a meeting that I feel bad in the sense that any time we're sort of mulling over an episode about someone who sucks or like a thing that sucks or someone being embarrassing and bad. |
| 0:46.5 | We're like, oh, Sachi. |
| 0:49.0 | Well, I am very well-versed in being embarrassing and bad, so I'm a good person to have. |
| 0:55.3 | I know it personally. |
| 1:02.0 | And you are well-versed, perhaps against your will in some respects, in Katie Perry. |
| 1:02.7 | Is this correct? |
| 1:06.7 | Yeah, I don't know if it's against my will. I have actually never learned anything willingly, so everything is against my will. Right. So in that respect, it's all... |
| 1:13.4 | It's all bad. |
| 1:20.5 | Last summer, you wrote a feature for Slate titled How Katie Perry Came Undone. This was sort of during the astronaut of it all. And it was a, |
| 1:28.8 | it was a necessary question because it is kind of like, I don't know how else to phrase it other |
| 1:33.1 | than like, how did Katie Perry become like that? Like, how did she go to just constantly being |
| 1:39.1 | this sort of meme at best, but like enduring embarrassment at worse. But last year, it was about her album |
| 1:49.2 | flopping and her going to space, but not really. But Sachi, your piece keeps being relevant, |
| 1:55.1 | now for much more serious reasons. Last week, actress Ruby Rose went on social media and alleged that Katie Perry had once |
| 2:03.2 | sexually assaulted her at a nightclub in Melbourne, Australia back in 2011. Rose actually ended up |
| 2:09.6 | filing a police report in Australia after she posted about this incident. Katie Perry's rep has denied |
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