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This is the political scene, a weekly conversation with New Yorker writers and editors about politics.

It's Thursday, October 8th. I'm Dorothy Wickendon, executive editor of The New Yorker writers and editors about politics. It's Thursday, October 8th.

I'm Dorothy Wiccenden, executive editor of The New Yorker. Last Saturday at the Boston Convention Center,

Senator Bernie Sanders spoke to an audience of some 20,000 supporters. We are running a people's campaign.

And while the millionaires and billionaires may have more money than we do, we have something

that they don't have. Look around this road. This is what we have.

Margaret Talbot profiled Sanders in this week's issue of the magazine, and she joins me to discuss his unexpected success as a campaigner.

So, Margaret, really, a 74-year-old Brooklyn-born socialist who's polling ahead of Clinton in New Hampshire and Iowa? How is he doing it?

I know. I know. I don't think anybody would have predicted that when he got in the race back in the spring.

And I think it's almost the attraction of the sort of anti-candidate. I know people use this word,

authentic a lot, and it can be overused, and it can be a cliche, but he certainly

comes across that way. He's very blunt. He's kind of irascible. He is very much somebody who has

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