The Insanity Defense That Freed a Child Killer—Can Nick Reiner Use It Too?
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🗓️ 15 January 2026
⏱️ 22 minutes
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Summary
In 2004, David Carmichael crushed sleeping pills into his 11-year-old son's orange juice and strangled him to death. He planned it. He researched murder sentences. He expected prison. Two years later, he walked free. The reason? A legal test written in 1843 called the M'Naghten Rule—the same test that will likely determine Nick Reiner's fate.
Nick Reiner is charged with murdering his parents, director Rob Reiner and philanthropist Michele Singer Reiner, in their Brentwood home. He reportedly admits to the killings but believes his incarceration is a conspiracy against him. His medication for schizoaffective disorder was changed approximately one month before the alleged murders. His defense attorney just withdrew from the case. He's now represented by a public defender.
The M'Naghten Rule asks two questions: Did the defendant understand the nature and quality of the act? Did they know it was wrong? You only need to fail one test. Carmichael couldn't claim he didn't know killing was wrong—he planned for prison. But he succeeded on nature and quality because his delusion changed what he believed he was doing. He thought he was ending his son's suffering, not murdering a healthy child.
Nick Reiner's post-offense behavior—checking into a hotel, navigating Los Angeles for 24 hours—suggests he knew something was wrong. That kills prong two. But can he argue his perception was so distorted he didn't understand the true nature of the act? That's the question. And the answer depends on what delusion, if any, distorted his reality that night.
A rule from 1843 is about to collide with modern psychiatry. The outcome will determine whether Nick Reiner faces death row or a psychiatric facility.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Hidden Killers with Tony Bruske. |
| 0:03.0 | Here now, Tony Bruske. |
| 0:07.0 | Nick Reiner, how does he get to not guilty by reason of insanity? |
| 0:11.0 | We've been hearing a lot of terms being thrown around the McNaughton rule, |
| 0:15.0 | how California sees not guilty by reason of insanity. |
| 0:20.0 | Canada has the same standard as well. |
| 0:22.3 | Some other states do. |
| 0:23.9 | What does it mean in practice? |
| 0:26.9 | What is it all about? |
| 0:28.0 | Where did it come from? |
| 0:29.8 | How exactly is this applicable, if at all, to Nick Reiner? |
| 0:36.0 | We're gonna get into this. |
| 0:36.6 | We're gonna explain to you exactly where this |
| 0:39.8 | comes from and exactly what it means when applied to law today. But we have to go way back in time |
| 0:50.5 | first. Way back. January 20th of 1843 in London, England, a Scottish Wood |
| 1:00.4 | Turner. I haven't been quite sure what a Wood Turner is, but he was a Scottish Wood Turner. |
| 1:06.6 | And Daniel McNaughton, he walked up behind a man on the street and shot him in the back. |
| 1:12.8 | That victim? |
| 1:19.4 | Was Edward Drummond, private secretary to British Prime Minister Robert Peel? |
| 1:22.7 | McNaughton thought he was shooting the prime minister himself. |
| 1:32.5 | He was convinced the Tories and the Pope were conspiring against him, following him, trying to destroy his life. |
| 1:37.1 | Drummond died five days later, wrong target. |
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