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The inquiry moves to Judiciary. Can the president’s legal team sit this one out?

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The Washington Post

News, True Crime, Politics

4.14.6K Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2019

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Trump and his lawyers won’t be part of Wednesday’s hearing. Have we ever before seen a president’s legal team absent from impeachment proceedings? Reporter Paul Kane explains how past presidents used their lawyers and how Trump’s approach is different.

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0:00.0

The House impeachment inquiry moves this week from the House Intelligence Committee, led by Chairman Adam Schiff, to the House Judiciary Committee, led by Chairman Jerry Navler.

0:09.0

The Democrats are continuing on a speedy timeline for this inquiry that would set a full House vote on articles of impeachment for just before the House breaks for the end of December holidays.

0:19.0

That shift means there's a few key moments to pay attention to this week.

0:24.0

The House Intelligence Committee released its report Tuesday on findings from the impeachment inquiry.

0:29.0

The report says President Trump placed his political interests above national interests in his conduct toward Ukraine, and that Trump, quote,

0:38.0

engaged in an unprecedented campaign of obstruction of this impeachment inquiry.

0:42.0

On Tuesday night, the Intelligence Committee is scheduled to vote on sending that report to the Judiciary Committee.

0:51.0

This vote will allow Judiciary to consider articles of impeachment based on that document.

0:56.0

On Wednesday, hearings in the House Judiciary Committee will begin.

1:00.0

There, four constitutional scholars, three chosen by Democrats and one chosen by Republicans, are expected to testify on the standards for impeachment and what constitutes an impeachable offense.

1:11.0

But some potentially notable people will not be in attendance Wednesday.

1:17.0

White House counsel Pat Zipelone told the House Judiciary Committee in a five-page letter that Trump and his lawyers would not be part of the hearing.

1:26.0

So, have we seen anything like this in history, a President's legal team absent from impeachment proceedings into the President's actions?

1:33.0

How have past presidents used their lawyers in the impeachment process and how might Trump's approach be different?

1:39.0

That's right, we're asking Ken Trump and his lawyers sit out of the impeachment proceedings.

1:45.0

This is Ken who do that, a podcast that explores the powers and limitations of the American presidency and what happens when branches of government collide.

1:54.0

I'm Allison Michaels.

2:00.0

Our producer, Carol and I headed to the halls of the Capitol to find senior congressional correspondent Paul Cain.

2:06.0

This isn't his first time covering a presidential impeachment process, so we knew he'd have some answers.

2:12.0

I started by asking to remind us where the White House has stood on the inquiry up to this point.

2:17.0

In the Intelligence Committee, the White House basically refused to cooperate and refused to have any of the agencies turn over documents and the most senior of all witnesses.

2:29.0

There were more mid-level career type officials who did testify because they wouldn't be as legally protected by a presidential order to not cooperate.

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