Yo!

Welcome in to the House of Elle Podcast

I'm Lawrence Holmes.

Thank you for hanging out being a part of this episode. I really appreciate

you listening to this episode. I've been thinking about doing something to honor my friend and he was top of mind today.

I was like, you know what, what you've been waiting to do this just do it.

House of El is the perfect place to do something like this. I've made mention of him before on the score and I've talked a little

bit about him, but I wanted to talk to you about this individual and how you really do need to listen to people like open yourself up to the idea of

hearing someone's story because you never know where it might lead. Like I love this.

As someone who spends his life doing storytelling

and spending a lot of that time,

whether it's written word, spoken word,

or you see me on TV

telling stories in sports it's always weird when stuff happens to you and

you're like wait what just stuff happens to you.

And you're like, wait, what just happened?

So I'm gonna get into this.

And I wanted to tell you about Jaime Rockman.

This dude, okay, so I work out

at the Ratner Center at the University of Chicago. It's down the street from my house.

I've been working since I've lived in either Woodlawn or Hyde Park.

It has been my primary gym.

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