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And the other thing, the incident, the rule that was broken between father and son,

Evan, have you seen it?

Okay, so we can discuss this.

This, this, okay?

I could not believe this. So you tell me if I'm missing the detail here, but they had worked it out where they both liked the same horse.

Father and son both liked the same horse.

Didn't make much sense to bet it the same way,

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