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Decoder with Nilay Patel

The impossible dream of good workplace software

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 October 2024

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

I’m talking with my good friend David Pierce, Vergecast co-host and The Verge’s editor-at-large, about something he spends an ungodly amount of time thinking and writing about: software. Scores of new workplace apps are cropping with clever metaphors to try to make us work differently. Sometimes that works… and sometimes it really, really doesn’t. And it feels like the addition of AI to the mix will accelerate the pace of experimentation here in pretty radical ways. Links:  Why software is eating the world | Wall Street Journal (2011) Mailchimp CEO Rania Succar on why email makes sense for Intuit | The Verge Why would anyone make a website in 2023? | The Verge Wix CEO Avishai Abrahami isn’t worried AI will kill the web | The Verge Figma CEO Dylan Field is optimistic about AI | The Verge We don’t sell saddles here | Stewart Butterfield (2014) The CEO of Zoom wants AI clones in meetings | The Verge Dropbox CEO Drew Houston wants you to embrace AI | The Verge Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. This episode was edited by Xander Adams. Our supervising producer is Liam James. The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

How dole custom orders work on Krakhan?

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Imagine I'm a music producer, dialing in my newest track.

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Need more bass? Crank it?

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Vocal's not popping. Double it up.

0:11.0

Want a bigger sound? Hit that reverb. Hard. That's custom orders on

0:16.5

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0:21.0

what crypto can be. Don't invest unless you're prepared to lose all the money you invest.

0:25.0

This is a high-risk investment and you should not expect to be protected if something goes wrong.

0:29.0

Hello and welcome to Decoder. I'm Neely Patel, editor-in-chief of The

0:34.3

Virge and Decoder is my show about big ideas and other problems.

0:37.3

Today I'm talking to my good friend David Pierce, who's my co-host on the

0:40.6

Virg cast and the Virgis editor at large.

0:43.1

And we're talking about something that David spends honestly too much time thinking and writing about.

0:48.2

Software.

0:49.2

Specifically, we're talking about the software you use at work, the stuff you like, or maybe just tolerate and use every day,

0:55.0

the stuff you probably hate and try to avoid using at all costs,

0:58.0

and the stuff you love and hate because your job revolves around using it all day long.

1:04.0

It's fair to say that businesses of all kinds changed radically

1:06.8

when software entered the office.

1:08.6

That's the foundation of the famous Mark Andresham quote,

1:11.0

software is eating the world. And now it seems like it's all about

1:14.3

to change again as AI automates more and more of that software at least that's if you

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