What people don't appreciate is that everything you get better at, you get better at while you sleep.

You don't get better at anything while you're awake.

So if you're not sleeping well and if you're not sleeping in line with your circadian rhythm, you just don't do that as well.

I agree. What the fuck do I know?

Welcome to Barbell Shug. I'm Mike Blitzer here with Doug Lawson and we have Dr. Kirk Parsley.

And your former Navy SEAL, you now specialize in sleep or have specialized in sleep.

You work with a lot of people that have traumatic brain injuries.

You work with a lot of people who you're just trying to give people healthy.

And some of the work you do is with hormone replacement therapy and doing it in an intelligent way.

What else should we know about you that I'm made of mist?

How about the square root answer? Good with Lakers?

Yeah, I mean, your point is exactly, I think the message I'm trying to get out, you know, I completely unintentionally became the sleep guy that was never, there's never a goal of mine to be this world renowned expert on sleep.

That's usually how it happens that you just start doing something and all of a sudden people are like, oh, you're that guy, am I?

I never tried to be that guy. I didn't want to be that guy, but I guess I ended up in that guy.

And interestingly, when I came back to the SEAL teams as their doctor, they were having all these problems that I couldn't really explain in the other way.

But one thing that was finding when I did these huge panels on them, right, I did these huge serum panels of like 98 different samarkers, larger because I didn't know what the hell I was doing.

Like I'm just like the shotgun and like, let's see what pops up.

And all their hormones were fucked up. And so I wanted to fix their hormones because I'm a doctor.

I'm a medical doctor. That's what they teach me. It's like, hey, this loves this. You give this, you know, pharmaceutical intervention to fix that.

We need to bring them to normal. Right, right. But unfortunately, you know, the other downside of medicine is that normal has nothing to do with optimal.

It's just like, it's quote unquote normal. So normal is normally this is my understanding. I think correct me if I'm wrong, but you're wrong. You're probably wrong.

We got no, but like in the medical community, community community, the normal is kind of like the average versus versus what you're saying is.

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