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Hi, everyone, Brian Kilmey here.

Thanks so much for listening to this special holiday edition of the Brian Kilmead show.

It's where we have a chance to look back at some of our most important interviews and bring it forward again.

It's one I really look forward to doing it and reliving, especially when it comes to cyber

technology, when it comes to cybersecurity, when it comes to social media and AI. You have my

attention. This hour, we're going to be joined by Teresa Payton, as well as Tristan Harris and

Azaraskin. They're buddies, and the latter two are co-chairs of the Center for Humane Technology.

They saw some of the dangers with social media.

They saw it coming.

Silicon Valley saw it coming.

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