The Imperial President Begins his First Week!
Shrinking Trump
Really American Media
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🗓️ 31 January 2025
⏱️ 100 minutes
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Summary
Dr. John Gartner and Dr. Harry Segal review the norm-crashing first week of the Trump administration, before returning to the issue of authoritarianism with Dr. John Bone, professor and author of “The Great Decline,” a study of the historical and psychological forces contributing to the rapid new rise of the right.
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In this all-new episode, our hosts explore Trump’s rapid succession of executive actions, which they describe as a tactic designed to overwhelm the sensory processing capabilities of an entire nation. By inundating the public and political institutions with a relentless stream of outrageous initiatives, Trump's administration seeks to destabilize any opponents, leaving them grasping for time and unable to respond effectively.
We’ll draw parallels to past regimes and examine how Trump’s deliberate psychological warfare creates an atmosphere of chaos and fear.
Professor John Bone of the University of Aberdeen joins the show to explain how chronic stress can impair our cognitive functions and make us more susceptible to emotions like fear and anger. This psychological state, Bone argues, is intentionally cultivated by Trump’s malignant narcissism—his drive for power unrestrained by norms or legal constraints.
We’ll also take a look at what role economic insecurities and cultural nostalgia plays in determining whether someone is more or less susceptible to Trump-style populism.
Amidst the chaos, our hosts remind us that resilience lies in understanding these psychological dynamics and finding ways to counteract them. They emphasize the critical role of media and political figures to resist the reigning disinformation and fear. And they’ll better equip us all to handle the road ahead.
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| 0:29.9 | I'm Dr. John Gartner. And I'm Dr. Harry Siegel. And welcome to this session of Trinking Trump. |
| 0:36.6 | John and I have been doing this podcast since April. |
| 0:40.2 | That's a long time. |
| 0:42.1 | We went through the campaign. |
| 0:44.3 | We went through the month between the election and Trump's first week, |
| 0:49.1 | which we're just recovering from. |
| 0:52.0 | Well, we're just getting used to, really. |
| 0:55.3 | We began the show by looking at Trump's gradual cognitive decline that we saw on the campaign trail, |
| 1:04.5 | but we were also very concerned about his severe personality disorder, also known as malignant narcissism, which explains Trump's |
| 1:15.6 | compulsive lying, his criminal behavior, and his at times unconscious desire to destroy everything. |
| 1:25.6 | Yeah. |
| 1:26.6 | We've noted that he doesn't really have friendships that last, |
| 1:31.4 | and he is a very troubled person who now has a tremendous amount of power. |
| 1:39.4 | Now, while John and I review moments from the week, |
| 1:47.7 | we're not political pundits. We're clinical psychologists. |
| 1:56.5 | And so what we are offering is a psychological interpretation of what he's up to. And some people have written to us, in fact, saying, can't you go back to talking about signs of Trump's dementia? |
| 2:02.9 | And I have to let our audience know when Trump was on the campaign trail, there was plenty of |
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