Hi there listeners welcome back my name is Stephanie Safarian and you're listening to

episode 350 holy moly 350 of sustainable minimalist a twice weekly show about

intentional and eco-minimalist living.

On today's show we are talking numbers.

We are doing some math.

We're doing math in metric tons by the way. Now before we get into today's interview we have to set it up and I'm

going to get my teacher voice on so stay with me for a hot minute. Pretend you are in class and the teacher gives you a blank

8.5 by 11 piece of paper so a white sheet of computer paper okay it's in front of you. I then instruct you to fold the paper in half and then fold the paper in half again. So two folds, you make the creases, and then you gently

unfold it, and in front of you, you should have

four squares, four quadrants.

Now take your pencil, and in each square, respectively, write the numbers one through four so one in one

square two three four in category one in the first square that's where you put all

the high impact but low effort eco-friendly activities.

So the actions that don't take a lot of time, effort, money, but have a big bang for their buck. That goes in category one.

Category two is the high impact, high effort, so big bang for your buck but also a lot more

effort, maybe also a lot more money on your end that's category too

and then in quadrant three that's the low impact low effort so not a lot of being for your buck, but also, you know, not a lot of work.

And then finally, where we all want to stay away from is category four, the low impact, so you're not

doing much in terms of helping the planet, but you're working really hard.

So low impact, high effort.

If I was to ask you, and I'm not asking you to do this, but if I was to ask you to fill out your

quadrants with activities that fit into each of these categories you would

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